Let me start out by saying, if you really think there is any difference between republicrats and demolicans your stupid, brainwashed, ignorant of history, and a sheople. Your stuck in the left right preconstucted paradigm that is made to give you the illusion that, hey, your vote matters. Not only does your vote not matter, as is apparent by the 2000 Selection of the president (not election) but the voting is controlled by a single entity, the CIA, which has counting headquarters in a private location guarded by gunmen and such. Of course, they dont answer to anyone, especially you or me, and they are not investigated by anyone nongovernmental, naturally. Now, the 2000 election fuckup was a charade to usher in the digital voting system, because it is so much better, supposedly proven by the 2000 ordeal which used paper ballots. This is just a way to make the fraud easier for them to do. www.blackboxvoting.org for more info. Left and Right dont exist. At the core they are the same. They both support the federal reserve. They both obey their puppet master. They both are collectivist. It is but theatre for the proletariats to dwell on.
For starters, Sticks, Bush opposes the ghastly, barbaric and horrifying 'partial birth' abortion technique. Kerry wants to keep abortions (in general) legal.
I personally agree that partial abortion shouldnt be allowed. However, Kerry does not support allowing it either, no idea where you got that out of the air, unsupported idea. Kerry has only said he supports the womans right to choose. Show me where he says he supports third trimester abortion, id like to see that.
For starters, Sticks, Bush opposes the ghastly, barbaric and horrifying 'partial birth' abortion technique. Kerry wants to keep abortions (in general) legal.
so your choosing who to vote for on a religious standing, even though your not female, and if you have a female, she would probably choose not to use such a technique on religious grounds as well ...... so what does it matter to you? .... Gotta love when people throw thought to the wind because some cultlike society(any religion) says they should.
Min
Religion means a lot to some people. The true base of religion is morality. A moral government is important. Because religions base themselves on morality, and law also is based on morality, a lot of it will be interwined. Just because murder is a biblical sin, and the government has made a law against it, doesnt mean that government supports that religion. Although I am not female, partial abortion just doesnt make sense to me. At the point of birth, I for one consider it a life, and to kill it is murder. However, in cases where the females life is in danger, I can see abortion at that point to be the right thing to do.
u know i think (and i hope) bush wins! frankly if u read all of what kerry is going to doif he wins the election i think i might move to scottland if kerry wins. plus kerry doesnt support war and he "sympithizes" the enemies (in general) what they r going through.so basicaly hes just gonna pull out the troops and let them build nukes to KILL the UNITED STATES!!! of course this is all just my opinion 8)
I probably shouldnt even bother commenting on your feeble and retard laden input, but I am in a masochistic mood. First of all, Kerry DOES SUPPORT WAR AS HE HAS FROM THE BEGINNING. ALWAYS HAS ALWAYS WILL. The only reason that he says things that seem like he doesnt, is because it has become popular to do so. He doesnt oppose the war per se, he opposes the reasons for war, which have become obviously clear were bullshit, if your IQ is higher than your shoe size. IT IS THEATRE PEOPLE. He opposes anything that is unpopular that Bush does, just as Bush will oppose anything the democrats do that is unpopular, or potentially disasterous. THEY ARE THE SAME ENTITY! Figure it out, ffs.
Sympathizes the enemy? How about you stop watching faux snooze for a little while, and look at what Bush has said and done. You dumb shits that dont look at what is really going are why you will all be put in FEMA camps, and get them for the shackles, to make you more safe from the invisible enemy. If you dont see the parallels of what is in process now and what happens in Germany of Soviet Union, you deserve the torture.
Let them build nukes, lol. Who do you think sold the nukes to China? Go read 1984, then you will know what Goldenstein is. The tyrants need a Goldenstein to keep the people controlled by the tool of patriotism (the government itself is godless and without honor to country, but that is irrelavent) so that they will always have a bad guy to spend their 5 minutes of hate at. I suspect, just like how the government commited oklahoma and 911, they will let a biochemical bomb, dirty bomb or suitcase nuke off in a urban area of the states, which is the logical next step of Fabian Incrementalism, to get what they want next. When exactly, I am not sure, but it will not be any later than 2012.
I have decided to weigh in on this discussion. First things first. I do consider myself to be conservative, I usually vote for republicans. That noted I will try to provide my analysis of this fall's election.
Who will win: My gut feeling is Bush will win.
Right now I dont care what any of the polls say... Its way early, remember the lead dukakis had over bush sr in the summer 88 going into fall.
Here is what Bush needs for win in election:
1. Economy continues to thrive.... ( note I work in a field that gauges manufacturing sector, things are going good.)
2. No terriorist actions.
3. Large base turn out
4. Wins 2 out 3 debates. I remember in 2000 how Al gore was going to slaughter bush in the debates. If Kerry cant win debate he will lose. This one of the most critical parts of election. Who will outwit who?
5. Iraq settles down
Kerry needs:
1. Economy down turn.
2. Terriorist action may help.... but no would want this just win election.
3. People that hate bush all need to vote for Kerry and not third party canidates.
4. win debates.
5. Can make americans beleive the country would be safer with him as president.
Policy: Republicans try to have low taxes small government ( side note except for the largest entitlement just created which i dont like)
Reason behind it: If people have more of their own money they will spend it more wisely. One funny thing, i have never seen a computer game ex: civ 1, 2, 3 where taxing the heck out your citizens makes them work harder. So basically bigger pie for everyone.
Democrats: more taxes more programs to help people. This is all fine and good.... but lower productivity, and wastefull government. Maybe if so much money wasnt wasted by abusers. These programs might actually work.
Personally I feel I would benfit more from Bush being President vs Kerry.
Reason my taxes went from 4,500 dollars to 2,800 with Bush in office. Plus other personal reasons.
So in conclusion. Vote its your basic right as a citizen.
Pawn
If you are conservative, why do you support Bush? Bush is not conservative. He is a neo-con, which is a mutated form of liberal. He is not Christian, he is occultist if anything. He is anything but paleoconservative. Look at how much money he has spent ffs. You call that conservative? Trillions in debt? Ya right.
If you look at where the tax breaks go, you will realize that it is nothing but a ploy for supply side economics. Yes, lets abolish taxes all together, even better! No schools or roads or hospitals, what a great society. Oh ok, so *some* taxes are needed. Well, the thing is, taxes are almost irrelavent, since the black budget and inflation will take care of any financial needs. Inflation via the fed, of course. But then hyper inflation would be a little too obvious wouldnt it. Then the trick would be over, cant let that happen.
In conclusion, I value individualism over collectivism. I am a libertarian at heart. For most social issues I am very liberal. For general economic issues I am conservative. But the thing is, the two choices are both commy red, and they are both terrorist organizations against the people. Both of them will destroy the constitution, both of them want you on the control grid, both of them are whores to the military industrial complex. Both will gladly sell your childrens blood for more power. Both hate America. Its good cop bad cop, paving the road for World tyranny, under one world government, a new world order.
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