Attacks on the websites and winbolo

Some of you may or may not be a wear of it. A while back (9-29-2004) the websites at .net .com and .us were down for about 12-13 hours while they were being subject to a DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack. These attacks were carried out by two kids with what’s commonly referred to as zombie attack bots. These are Trojans that infect many computers on the internet and I’m sad to say is all too common. These Trojans allow the creator(s) to flood hosts, redirect connections (bounce off of); log all key strokes and much more. These wannabe crackers used many of these infected computers to attack the websites and players. Anytime they dislike something a player does, rather it is that player beating them, or the player simply not accepting alliance with them, or for no reason at all!

The names I’ve seen these players play under and use most often is “nas” “naz” and “rebal” although they can and probably do use others. They almost always play from a host at dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net Please note, there are other perfectly legitimate players that play from pacbell, the sub domain ‘sntc01’ should be what you look for.

I would encourage all players, new or old that see these people in a game to simply leave and not play with them. In time they may become sick of our little gaming community and move on and let us be. I would also like to ask that all bot owners and anyone who runs a game server or website try to keep them banned.

nas? shit. Do you people realize he was on irc?

(Btw, now i understand why ren said he could ban anyone.... except maybe nas)

Crazy......

Q: Yes, that's why we have him banned.

:D

hmm

aren't there internet police?
isn't there a company or group that tracks down all computers with this sub domain? oh, what a sec, I don't know anything about computer. just some basic chortcuts, ins and out, w/e. still, can't we report this to a higher authority? [not G0d; he's still using stone tablets and doesn't like computers]

Interesting...I don't even know how to refuse an IP from a bot... :oops:

Wow really, DoS attacks are very bad, but doesn't the Winbolo server have a Firewall protecting it? I beleive you can block DoS attacks easily, or so I read on a website.

Here we go, a little more in depth how a DoS attack works-
http://grc.com/dos/drdos.htm

GRC.com is a great website, I really wish I had time to read that page, but I’ll explain the types of attacks I saw in more detail.

In a DDoS there are many hosts (computers) attacking another computer. With so many computers targeting one it gets very hard to block all of the attacking computers. But, websites serve their content on port 80. So if all these computers are attacking the web server on port 80 what can you do?

One option is, you could deny all traffic coming into port 80, while that would block the attack it would also deny legitimate traffic and the server wouldn’t serve any website requests.

The second option is to block all the attacking computers IP addresses. But, with the number of computers performing the attack that becomes very difficult.


Another form of attack that was used against .us was a brute force attack. This attack was simply intended to consume all of the bandwidth of the internet connection. The only way to stop this type of attack is by blocking it at a higher bandwidth router. With the brute force attack also aimed at port 80 blocking the traffic at any level would lead to denying valid web requests.

That is true, damn I hate crackers like that, just so dumb to do, I don't see the joy they get. "0mg I a|\/| s0 g0ing t0 haX j00, I'|\/| s0 1337!!11!!!eleven!" So dumb. :x

I saw nas in a ccbot game the other day. I realized he probably has many ips, so didn't bother writing his down. Should we start recording them here?

No, Don't ban anyone. Banning is for power-hungry fucked up little pricks like Ren, Underdog, and LRL.

-Madd Maxx-

Madd Maxx wrote:

No, Don't ban anyone. Banning is for power-hungry fucked up little pricks like Ren, Underdog, and LRL.

-Madd Maxx-

really. do you even think before typing? lrl just had two "wannabe hackers" went into the servers and fucks thing up. and your telling him not to ban them? who the fuck do you think you are telling them not to ban them. in fact, lrl has all the right to ban whoever he wants. it his server.

indiana wrote:

before typing? lrl just had two "wannabe hackers" went into the servers and fucks thing up. and your telling him not to ban them? who the fuck do you think you are telling them not to ban them. in fact, lrl has all the right to ban whoever he wants. it his server.

Yes, yes, feed the attention whore.

Wow! They tried to fuck up a channel, you say? Funny, that sounds a lot like when LRL went onto .com and fucked up THAT channel.

-Madd Maxx-

That incident (whatever it was) was THEN. We are talking about NOW. All people who try to flood our server(s) with bogus packets should be banned NOW.

Nice job at justifying his actions, Acro.

Can you provide the IP range for that sub-domain? I (and others) can only block by IP and not DNS.

Thanks.

ps - Acro: you can block IPs with your router, and me or LRL (or another techie player can help if you're interested).

This reminds me of a basic networking question I have. I currently use no router, but if I get one, how will it affect my speed? If I'm using no other computers on the router will the speed up and down be the same as if I was using my modem alone? And how would the speed up and down be affected if I used just 2 computers - one for the bot and one for web?

sheeps wrote:

ps - Acro: you can block IPs with your router, and me or LRL (or another techie player can help if you're interested).

Sorry sheepsy, but your incorrect, not all routers allow you to block IP's. The one I'm using currently doesn't allow that functionality, and neither does quite a few of the other routers I've played with. Perhaps you should post your routers make and model, so that if acro does decide to purchase one, he can get one with that functionality.

Min

Acro wrote:

This reminds me of a basic networking question I have. I currently use no router, but if I get one, how will it affect my speed? If I'm using no other computers on the router will the speed up and down be the same as if I was using my modem alone? And how would the speed up and down be affected if I used just 2 computers - one for the bot and one for web?

You'll still have the same speeds, it doesn't make much of a difference if any. But make sure your cable/dsl company allows more then one computer. otherwise you could be hit with double the price.

Thanks sui. But I still don't quite get it. If a router can essentially 'split' a signal, how can the speeds be the same or similar?

it will not effect a single connection to the router, multiple computers will slow down if both are using the internet at the same time, but one computer will do the same ex. Downloading porn and trying to play winbolo.

Suicide Jockey wrote:

it will not effect a single connection to the router, multiple computers will slow down if both are using the internet at the same time, but one computer will do the same ex. Downloading porn and trying to play winbolo.

I don't know about that, when I'm on the internet I don't notice any speed decrease when my mom is using her computer at the same time, but I haven't tested my download and upload speed while we are both on the internet, but myself haven't felt a difference. I guess it depends on your download conection speed though, I'm usually able to download a 60mb file without noticing any decrease in speed. =/ Anyways a router gives access to a number of computers, the way it gives access to the internet varies from router models and between switches and hubs and their models. (I won't go into detail as I don't know too much after that, and it's complicated)

if your modem can only provide 400 kilobytes/second, and one machine is using 300 kilobytes/second, you will notice, the second machine will only get 100 kilobytes/second, period, nothing you can do about it.

Min