No, seriously.

Aug 17, 2005 23:47 No, seriously.
This is a request for mods to start using their power. We, the community, would like to see some action. Maybe the mod-only forum is still being worked on, and that's fine. But in the near future, we want to see some of the crap gone off this forum.

Here's the points I have so far.

Q-mandabomb wrote:
No really, I was just real bored.

I'm trying to prove a point that the guidelines aren't good enough. If this isn't found innappropriate then something is definitely wrong. Most forums have a "no crap" policy. (ie, leet speak, illegible crap, general space wasting nonsense) People here will probably object to such a rule, because it violates their "free speech".

That's bullshit.

Elvis or any one of the mods will probably never implement a no crap policy because it doesn't please absolutely everyone. If you try pleasing everyone, you end up pleasing no one. Sure, right now you're satisfying little idiots with nothing better to do by giving them the ability to create crap (basically spam) like this. However, what about the literate, smart, civilized people that actually might have something contributive to say on this forum? The have to wade through piles of crap. Are the pleased? Fuck no. I'm not.

Maybe it's not such a big problem right now, but if winbolo ever gets bigger, or WANTS to get bigger, then the crap needs to stop now. All online games and their forums have to deal with this. They do fine. Why can't we?

Which is why I opt for a "no-crap" policy, and use this as a demonstration of a type of thread which is just plain, un-needed bullshit. WE need to stop wish-washiness and get our shit together. If this ever wants to go anywhere. Maybe it's just a little online game. But it could become something much more. Which is why something needs to be done. Now.

P.S. Maybe a "junk drawer" thread that doesn't appear on the frontpage, as Nova suggested? That way, we can still have fun, make jokes, fuck around, and no one can care.

-Q


Nova wrote:
Disclaimer: I'm fuggin' tired but I feel like posting anyway.

My idea was an entire forum, actually. And I think that'd work out for the best. If a mod doesn't think that a thread is appropriate then they can move it to the junk drawer. I can't imagine why anyone would bitch about this, but it's worth at least a shot. If it somehow doesn't work out (best-laid plans of mice and men 'n' all that) we could re-vote and make it the way it was.

Maybe this can apply to stupid posts, too. Get rid of the post, but put the "unabridged" version in the Junk Drawer.

And as a sidenote, Q, if you want to make a point about something don't do what you're trying to lobby against. The biggest problem in this world is that people don't understand that when you do something, you promote it. Or, at least, they don't really care. I'm not saying that this kills the cause for a junk drawer thread, it's just been an issue in the back of my mind that's been nagging me.

---Nova


Q-mandabomb wrote:
Thread.. forum... I get em confused. A junk forum. That's what I meant. I'm not sure putting "unnabridged" copies of topics in a seperate forum is a good idea. Too much extra space taken up because of one bad post. We're trying to cut the crap, remember? I think bad posts in an otherwise fine topic would be moved to the mod only forum where they could be voted on for deletion.

However, some rules should still apply to the junk drawer forum. We don't want it to just to be full of hentai pr0n, computer virus downloads, advertising, ect. We would, however, be allowed to goof around, go off topic, l33t speak, and all that crap. So, a more appropriate term would be an "off topic" forum.

Oh and Nova, I wanted to see at first if the mods would do anything about it, and if not I would post this request. I realise I could have brought up any one of the stupid threads that were made on this forum as an example. But where's the fun in that? :D


Q-mandabomb wrote:
Here's an example of a forum for one of the most popular online games ever.

http://www.forumplanet.com/counterstrike/

You'll notice they have an off-topic forum, and it has very specific and well thought out rules. Perhaps they could be adapted for an off topic forum here?

Or, the general chat forum could be our off-topic forum, and these basic rules could be adapted to all of the forums. (On this site)

You'll notice one of the rules is no spam. Is this thread not spam? Yet, 'tis not gone. Hmm... maybe the mods need to crack down harder?

I'm sure they'd love to, but they might be stripped of their power, like ud. Why did that happen again? Oh yeah, total bs whiners. Elvis needs to be more firm instead of giving into complaing.

....AND THE MODS NEED TO PWN SOME SPAMMING NEWBS! YOU HAVE THE POWER! USE IT!


So go ahead, prove yourseleves. Your first task? Pwn this crap I wrote!

/forums/topic/1883&start=0

I seriously can't believe you didn't lock or destroy it. But go ahead, let''s see the policy in action.
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Aug 18, 2005 00:13
You spelled seriously wrong.
I'm being serios.

As for your post, I agree, but I definitely think we need a junk forum.
Aug 18, 2005 01:33
DANTHEMAN! wrote:
As for your post, I agree, but I definitely think we need a junk forum.


We have a junk forum. It's this one.

CF
Aug 18, 2005 01:36
isn't that 'junk forum' the general chat at the very bottom of the forum listing??? that's where all of the gay-ass threads you guys make end up going... :p
Aug 18, 2005 02:21
Yes I agree, but this forum is so loosly moderated it's NEVER going to happen. Apperently they don't want any more mods. So yeah. Nothing will change.
Aug 18, 2005 02:22
Jason#8 wrote:
isn't that 'junk forum' the general chat at the very bottom of the forum listing??? that's where all of the gay-ass threads you guys make end up going... :p


Yes, but what we wanted specifically was for it to not show up on the "Most Recent 10". That way, if I want to access a thread it won't get buried under tons of crap. As for suicide's post, the big reason behind not deleting posts like "OMG HAX0R" is because it's "censorship". Moving a thread into a junk drawer is still a form of censorship, just not as drastic, and I think people would respond more positively to that.
Aug 18, 2005 15:26
Jason#8 wrote:
isn't that 'junk forum' the general chat at the very bottom of the forum listing??? that's where all of the gay-ass threads you guys make end up going... :p


Yeah if you read my last quoted post up there I realised that soon afterward. Now what I'm really looking for is what Nova said, to at least have the crap moved there, and not have it show frontpage. That way, people can still mess around, and anything serious/intelligent wouldn't be clogged with crap, thus not driving people away from what appears to be a shitty forum at first glance.

What I'm still not sure about is off-topic posts. Off topic threads should at least be moved to general chat, which is what usually happens. How about... when a thread starts going off topic, and say there's like three posts with little jokes such as in FI/CF manner, then those posts just move to "off-topic" (general chat), where they can be continued there without disturbing the peace. Yeah, that should work...

Of course, that would only happen with things going off topic. Stuff breaking the rules we already have (porn, hax, w@r3z, advertising ect.) would still be deleted.

So yeah, things like my little omG L0L!!11@$# post would just be moved to general chat, where they are not seen on the frontpage.

Wow.. I think that actually solves it.
Aug 18, 2005 16:35
I vote YES because I spend too much time trying to understand some stupid posts in your language ! :)
Aug 18, 2005 17:30
Do people actually read all the crap that Q posted? holy shit it took me and hour!
Aug 18, 2005 22:36
Francis wrote:
Do people actually read all the crap that Q posted? holy shit it took me and hour!


Trust me, that's about an eighteenth of the length of some of the epic flame wars that take place here.
Aug 19, 2005 10:35
Alain wrote:
I vote YES because I spend too much time trying to understand some stupid posts in your language ! :)


lol, your english is better than mine.....
but im australian

FEAR +3h DROPBEARS!!!

but, i agree with q, the recent 10 list should be devoid of crap

=or=

we could implement a recent 10 crap list as well as the recent 10 non-crap list.
Aug 19, 2005 15:17
Well, I think the poll speaks for itself.
Aug 22, 2005 17:38
Q-mandabomb wrote:
Well, I think the poll speaks for itself.


<<<<INSERT GAY JOKE HERE>>>>
Aug 22, 2005 22:29
King_Kong wrote:
we could implement a recent 10 crap list as well as the recent 10 non-crap list.


No no no, the entire idea behind keeping the junk off of the recent 10 is to keep it off the front page entirely. This is so that when Joe "Smickity" Smith or whoever comes to this site for the first time they aren't faced with tons of jackassery and promptly leave.