Dan_the_Man and Matt007 are banned

Nov 17, 2003 22:08
people are dumb...as am i...some times u just get pissed...i think the fact of the matter is we all put up with stuff like that. sure its in the rules but i think its kinda trivial. a newbie brakes the rules by earlystart but he dont get banned. sure its just becuase he dont know but its breakin a rule all the same. but nothing we say really matters becuase the ban it already in effect. yes its annoying but so is carpet mineing. just dont ban them for a year or some shit. give em about a week or 2. thats just my opnion.
Nov 17, 2003 22:09
fi wrote:


I think 100 pws is not enought. Let's make this 10,000 pws, that way it'll be even more spool proof. While we're at it, we should require p[pl to have a pw to view which pw we're using, because who knows, someone could have distributed that pw page.


At that point it would be easier just to have all of the "in" players meet at an undisclosed location in rural Montana once a month, ala Dick Cheney.
Nov 17, 2003 23:19
Kax wrote:
fi wrote:


I think 100 pws is not enought. Let's make this 10,000 pws, that way it'll be even more spool proof. While we're at it, we should require p[pl to have a pw to view which pw we're using, because who knows, someone could have distributed that pw page.


At that point it would be easier just to have all of the "in" players meet at an undisclosed location in rural Montana once a month, ala Dick Cheney.


or, we could just beg elvis to build a game starting interface that makes all this bs irrelevant. but that might just be ... to easy ...

Min
Nov 17, 2003 23:56
i like the idea about having 100000 passwords or something, but they would have to be changed every time someone got bann'd.
Nov 17, 2003 23:59
Elvis wrote:
Q-mandabomb wrote:
dude for the NEXT VERSION OF WINBOLO WE FUCKING NEED AN "IGNORE PLAYER TEXT" OPTION. SOME FUCKER NAMED "GREG" KEPT REQUESTING ALLIANCES WHEN I WAS SET TO IGNORE.FUCKING WENT ON UNTIL I LEFT.

Or you could use the existing functionality and turn off network status messages in the WinBolo menu.

oh lol. im sry elvis. didnt realize what "all the little symbols and dots" met. THX :wink: :P :oops:
Nov 18, 2003 00:10
Min wrote:


or, we could just beg elvis to build a game starting interface that makes all this bs irrelevant. but that might just be ... to easy ...

Min


True 'nuff. I guess my only question is what that would look like -- maybe you have ideas. I guess one possibility is to make the first player to join a map the leader of that game. (S)he would be able to lock and unlock it globally, as well as boot other players from it. I guess the latter could be accomplished by some sort of instant IP address filtering, although maybe that would have to be coordinated with the servers. Certainly that would give the "leader" a lot of power, but people would learn quickly enough not to join any map that I'm first to join.

[Insert vision of Kax wringing his hands and quietly muttering "eggggsellent"]

Anyway, you and Elvis actually have some technical knowledge, whereas I have an infinite supply of bs that only occasionally wanders near the realm of the useful. Certainly some sort of official fix would be the best way to go if it's in the cards. I just tend to assume that if Elvis thinks such a thing is/isn't worthwhile, my pestering him is unlikely to change his mind.

Kax
Nov 18, 2003 03:24 the "pri" solution
In the nascent days of the internet, I used to belong to this online service/community known as "The WELL". Like any community, it had its highs and lows. There could be some pretty serious conflicts and behavioral issues; as a result some people wanted to establish private chat rooms. These forums were so private that often those not in the know had no idea they existed. Really, it was a mirror of the real world, in that some people felt the need at times to be insulated from the hoi polloi. It was elitist, in other words. I, for one, have no problem with elitism, since I simply don't give a shit.

Y'all have something called email. Some of you, who are tech saavy, know how to set up dedicated servers and bots like the esteemed Sheeps. Here's what you do: You email your buddies, folks who you hold in high esteem for whatever reason..."Pssst! Hey bud, I got a server. Here's the IP. Here's an IRC channel with bots and so forth. DON'T TELL THAT FUCKSTICK BOLOGIST ABOUT IT. Meet me and GORILLABALLZOWNORZj00 and 9:00PM PST. We're gonna have a tourney with ManiaDevil and Jizzzzzbizcut. Don't tell that dillweed SmileySmurf about it either, coz he sux azz." You get together. You play with people who know their ass from their left nut, people who speaka you lan-gyoo-age, don't flip out over latency bugs, know when to hold, etc. Nobody gets in a purple rage and has an aneurism, jump starts, carpet mines, steals pills and unallies, calls you an ass-reaming butt pirate, any of that.

There are Darwinian forces at work here, folks. You can't fight it. Some are worthy, some should be sterilized before they procreate. Alas, the latter group has absorbed enough, even with their plankton-like IQ's and the ganglia they sport for brains, to invade the internet and infest it in a manner that would leave slime mold aghast.

You want 'em gone? Give up on this pinko wussy-assed egalitarian bullshit concept of the internet as the great equalizer. That slack-jawed, mouth-breating, butt-ugly cretinous mongrel picking navel lint next to you in the checkout line, the guy you pray to fucking God above won't breed as a public service...well, he's no less Sasquatch's retarded cousin online than off. Do you invite him to your parties? Hell no. Why play games with him?

You don't need to change winbolo. You need to change the COMMUNITY. You need the winbolo equivalent of a GATED community. It's simple. Just invent that secret handshake, that telling nudge-and-wink..."We're meeting at the Club for a match...it's a private afair, old chap. Ta."
Nov 18, 2003 03:27 Re: the "pri" solution
Sickboy wrote:

There are Darwinian forces at work here, folks. You can't fight it. Some are worthy, some should be sterilized before they procreate. Alas, the latter group has absorbed enough, even with their plankton-like IQ's and the ganglia they sport for brains, to invade the internet and infest it in a manner that would leave slime mold aghast.

You want 'em gone? Give up on this pinko wussy-assed egalitarian bullshit concept of the internet as the great equalizer. That slack-jawed, mouth-breating, butt-ugly cretinous mongrel picking navel lint next to you in the checkout line, the guy you pray to fucking God above won't breed as a public service...well, he's no less Sasquatch's retarded cousin online than off. Do you invite him to your parties? Hell no. Why play games with him?


I think I love you.
Nov 18, 2003 06:01 Re: the "pri" solution
Kax wrote:
Sickboy wrote:

There are Darwinian forces at work here, folks. You can't fight it. Some are worthy, some should be sterilized before they procreate. Alas, the latter group has absorbed enough, even with their plankton-like IQ's and the ganglia they sport for brains, to invade the internet and infest it in a manner that would leave slime mold aghast.

You want 'em gone? Give up on this pinko wussy-assed egalitarian bullshit concept of the internet as the great equalizer. That slack-jawed, mouth-breating, butt-ugly cretinous mongrel picking navel lint next to you in the checkout line, the guy you pray to fucking God above won't breed as a public service...well, he's no less Sasquatch's retarded cousin online than off. Do you invite him to your parties? Hell no. Why play games with him?


I think I love you.


I agree with that sentiment .... mmmm, sickboy ..... erm .... *hides* in regards to how to make it so the retards can't be retards .. well .. if elvis is interested he's welcome to email/chat with me about it ... the wonders of a non-neandrathal interface ... a macbolo'er named C++ who designs program interfaces once said that winbolo's interface was absolutely horrible, I agree with him, he had to explain why, when he first said it I thought he was off his rocker. I thought the winbolo interface was fine. now, I understand.

Min
Nov 18, 2003 06:06
Yeah, what Sickboy said. He's saying what I'm sayin, but he's much more poignant. You should kick Dennis Miller's ass and steal his show.
Nov 18, 2003 06:14
heh
Nov 18, 2003 11:34
Kax wrote:
fi wrote:


I think 100 pws is not enought. Let's make this 10,000 pws, that way it'll be even more spool proof. While we're at it, we should require p[pl to have a pw to view which pw we're using, because who knows, someone could have distributed that pw page.


At that point it would be easier just to have all of the "in" players meet at an undisclosed location in rural Montana once a month, ala Dick Cheney.


Terrific Suggestion Kax.

I'll go ahead and make a page with the directions to this place in Montana we should all meet.

I'll put a password on the page and distribute it via email.

Futhermore, we'll need to come up with a secret handshake so that nobody who stole the password to the webpage can get in.
Nov 18, 2003 12:19
Yeah, the best solution naturally would be to build this stuff into the interface. It could be similiar to Starcraft - ppl meet in a
room with the one who starts the game with the power to kick anybody out. He would also determine when to press the "GO" button. Once the "GO" button is pressed, the chat room is removed and the game starts. Then everyone plays and that player who started the game has no more power then everyone else.

But until that happens....we gotta make do with what we got.
Nov 18, 2003 13:46
hmm, three separate communities: .com, .us, and .elitist. Too much urban blight in the first two, slums popping up everywhere, drive by shootings, car jacking, jaywalkers, homeless people trying to find a place to live. Hope you enjoy nirvana.

Montana


hmm, last time I heard of a group of crazies gathering in one place like that, the ATF was sent in and wiped ‘em all out. So, In lieu of flowers, send contributions in the name of “elitist memorial fund” via paypal to winbolo.net.
Nov 18, 2003 14:25
Kax wrote:
Given these problems, the best way to proceed is through a "modified Wonka" or "Monka" proposal.


I considered this a temporary solution... i would've called it Tonka
Nov 18, 2003 16:06
I thought about not posting another message, but I just didn't think this tread was long enough. Anyway, one problem that I haven't been able to get a handle on conceptually is how one would design an interface that does the following things at the same time:

(1) Ensures that people can't start before the "go"
(2) Allows people to coordinate / move to the correct starting locations

Think deep thoughts.
Nov 18, 2003 16:14
Kax wrote:
I thought about not posting another message, but I just didn't think this tread was long enough. Anyway, one problem that I haven't been able to get a handle on conceptually is how one would design an interface that does the following things at the same time:

(1) Ensures that people can't start before the "go"
(2) Allows people to coordinate / move to the correct starting locations

Think deep thoughts.

i suggested a lil program like this before.......it chose teams and everything
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